Daniel Chapter Nine

The Abomination of Desolation

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Study Introduction
Below is a transcription of an interview between hosts Doug and Joe Hagmann of the Hagmann and Hagmann Report and Bible Teacher, Nathan Leal. The topic under discussion is an alternate understanding of the Abomination of Desolation described in Daniel Chapter 9 and warned about by Jesus in the 15th verse of Matthew 24. The widely held view is that the Abomination of Desolation represents the act of the antichrist standing in a newly built temple and declaring himself god. Nathan’s study suggests instead, the Abomination of Desolation is the reinstitution of temple sacrifice, thereby dismissing the purifying act by Jesus Christ when He offered Himself as The Sacrifice for All Sin and for All Time. Nathan offers significant evidence of this suggestion. The transcription is mostly a word-for-word recording of Nathan’s comments. The temptation existed to remove a couple of references to public figures deemed as potential distractions from the main points of the interview. Some of the comments refer to discussions held earlier in the interview. However, to remain true to the recording, the decision was made to leave the comments intact. You can listen to the interview held July 31, 2015 at this link and starting at mark 2:13:00. Nathan’s website is http://www.watchmansCry.com and the website for The Hagmann and Hagmann Report is http://www.hagmannandhagmann.com.

Study Introduction

      Below is a transcription of an interview between hosts Doug and Joe Hagmann of the Hagmann and Hagmann Report and Bible Teacher, Nathan Leal. The topic under discussion is an alternate understanding of the Abomination of Desolation described in Daniel Chapter 9 and warned about by Jesus in the 15th verse of Matthew 24.
      The widely held view is that the Abomination of Desolation represents the act of the antichrist standing in a newly built temple and declaring himself god.
Nathan’s study suggests instead, the Abomination of Desolation is the reinstitution of temple sacrifice, thereby dismissing the purifying act by Jesus Christ when He offered Himself as The Sacrifice for All Sin and for All Time. Nathan offers significant evidence of this suggestion.
      The transcription is mostly a word-for-word recording of Nathan’s comments. The temptation existed to remove a couple of references to public figures deemed as potential distractions from the main points of the interview. Some of the comments refer to discussions held earlier in the interview. However, to remain true to the recording, the decision was made to leave the comments intact.
      You can listen to the interview held July 31, 2015 at this link and starting at mark 2:13:00. Nathan’s website is http://www.watchmansCry.com and the website for The Hagmann and Hagmann Report is http://www.hagmannandhagmann.com.

Interview
When the tribulation period happens, Jesus tells us that something is gonna happen during the tribulation period, and when that event happens, you better realize at that point that the world’s in trouble. That God’s fury is about to be poured out on the entire planet. That event is found in Matthew 24 Verse 15. Therefore when you see the ’abomination of desolation’, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (whoever reads, let him understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! Matthew 25:15-18 (NKJV) The abomination of desolation is what Jesus is talking about, and it is a mystery, because Jesus admitted it. He said, “Let the reader understand.” At this point in eschatology and in the fundamental explanation of this event, most of The Western Church has been taught that this event has to do with when the antichrist walks into the rebuilt temple, and stops the sacrifice, and tells everybody that he’s god, and at that point, he will be committing the abomination of desolation. If this is your fundamental interpretation for this, please listen to what I’m going to present right here. We can also find the same account, the parallel account in Mark 13 Verse 14, so let me read from there. Based on what I just said, the abomination is when “He” goes into the temple, a human being, a human. So when you see the ’abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mark 13:14 (NKJV) Did you hear the difference between the two verses? The one I just read versus in Matthew 24. Here it says standing where, “It”. So if it was a “He”, meaning the antichrist, why does it say “It”? I propose this. So far, based on what I have uncovered, I find that there will be a sacrifice going on. There will be a rebuilt temple occurring in the end times. But the way it has been interpreted for that narrative has been twisted to the point where, if we do not really get ahold of what it means, it’s sad, because it shows that Christians haven’t been taught the legitimacy and the power of what Jesus did on the cross. Because that’s what this has to do with. When God established the sacrifice for the children of Israel and the law of Moses, that sacrifice could not take away sin. The Book of Hebrews tells us. It was just a shadow of what Jesus was going to do for us. After Jesus came, and He died, and He sacrificed himself, the sacrifice stopped. Jerusalem was overturned, and the sacrifice stopped. And from that point on, for several hundred years, the sacrifices have not been going on, because we no longer need it, because Jesus is the sacrifice. If we were to sit down with God, and ask Him, “What do You really feel about the sacrifice? A lamb? A sheep? What do You feel about that?” We would probably guess at what He might say, but could we really know what He felt about it? Well, yes we can, because in The Book of Isaiah Chapter 66, He tells us what He feels about it. Israel had a hard problem understanding that their hearts were far away from God, and they had a problem with the separation of the ritual versus the relationship with God. Many Israelites never figured it out. They did not have the intimacy with God, it was just a religion. They would bring the sheep into the high priest, and it would get sacrificed for them, and they figured they were okay until the next sacrifice, but their heart wasn’t in it. That was one of the most grievous things that broke God’s heart, because He said, “Your mouth says you praise Me and worship Me, but your heart’s far away.” (Paraphrased from Isaiah 29:13) Your heart is not in it, Israel. My people don’t understand their heart, because their hearts are full of evil and they sacrifice to Baal. They bring Me a sacrifice, but then during the week, the rest of the days, they’re participating in abominable things. God explains many times that if your heart’s not there, it really doesn’t matter. Don’t even show up. In Isaiah 66, look what He says, Thus says the Load, “Heaven is My throne, and earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest? For all those things My hand has made, and all those things exist,” says the LORD. “But on this one will I look: On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, and who trembles at My word.” Isaiah 66:1-2 (NKJV) This is what gets God’s attention. The Israelites who had a contrite heart, that was able to get God’s attention. Even now, in The New Testament, in the age of salvation, a contrite heart is what we all need. But then God goes on to explain in Verse 3, “He who kills a bull is as if he slays a man; He who sacrifices a lamb, as if he breaks a dog’s neck; He who offers a grain offering, as if he offers swine’s blood; He who burns incense, as if he blesses an idol. Just as they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations.” Isaiah 66:3 (NKJV) “Their souls delight in their abominations.” So what God’s saying right here is that their sacrifices, because their hearts are not aligned with Him, their sacrifices are abominations. That they aren’t sweet incense, they’re abominations. So, after Jesus died on the cross, from that point on, a sacrifice became an abomination, from that point on. Think about this. Any, any, any sacrifice that would be conducted by Israel or a high priest today in modern times, if they were to do a sacrifice, it would be an abomination. Let’s look at The Book of Hebrews Chapter 10, and look what God says about those who do not understand the purity of His blood. Verse 26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:26-27 (NKJV) What that’s saying right there is a people treat their salvation casually, and they tell themselves, “You know what? I can keep repenting.” It’s a license to sin. God says that eventually the sacrifice won’t be there for you. Verse 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Hebrews 10:28 (NKJV) Verse 29 … Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled The Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:29 (NKJV) What God’s saying right there is if a Christian today does not see the beauty and the precious value of The Blood of Jesus, they’re gonna be punished. If a Christian does understand The Blood of Jesus is a beautiful thing, because it came from our Lord, they will be punished. In fact, it goes on to say. Verse 30 … For we know Him who said, ’Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,’ says the Lord. And again, ’The Lord will judge His people.’ Hebrews 10:30 (NKJV) That’s a hint right there, by the way, because the vengeance of God is gonna be poured out during the tribulation period. In Matthew 24, Jesus mentioned the vengeance of God, and He said “When you see the abomination of desolation, you better head for the hills, because the world’s about to get shaken.” Now let’s examine what we have so far? We have The Bible telling us that the old sacrifice is an abomination. We also have The Bible telling us that to dismiss The Blood of Jesus will result in judgement and in God’s punishment, and in His vengeance for a Christina to minimize the Blood of Jesus. Now, let’s look at Esau in Genesis 25. One day he was hungry, and he showed up, and saw his brother cooking some stew, and he said, “Hey, why don’t you give me some of that”, and his brother said, “No. This is mine.” So Esau said, “Come on. I’m hungry.” So Esau was willing to trade his inheritance for a pot of stew. He was the first born. It was determined, and it was set in stone, the culture was very clear on this. The first born always got the inheritance because that was his birthright. And that was a shadow of the inheritance of our salvation today. Our inheritance is a birthright if we become a child of God. Our inheritance is very valuable, because it was bought by The Blood of Jesus. Now Esau traded his birthrate for one meal, and when he did that, because it was a shadow of salvation, how angry did God get? Did God treat it casually? No. It says in Hebrews Chapter 12 starting in Verse 16 (Actually Verse 14) … Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled; lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright. For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears. Hebrews 12:14-17 NJKV He regretted it later, and he cried and cried, and said, “Let me have my birthright back.” No you gave it up. Once you give up your birthright, you trade your inheritance for a little simple meal, you’re done. You don’t get it anymore. You nullify the gift for you. The inheritance of our salvation is reliant on us being children of God. It’s our inheritance, and it was bought by The Blood of Jesus. If you have been saved, you’re born again, and you say that Jesus Christ washed your sins away, that means you are taking part in the birthright inheritance that you have. It’s a free gift (He stumbles a bit here, but corrects himself when he clarifies, “It’s a gift”). To dismiss the birthright of salvation is having the attitude of Esau, and to treat The Blood of Jesus on the cross as a minor thing shows that there is not a value of your birthright. It says right here, “Let us not be like a fornicator or a profane person.” (Paraphrased from Hebrews 12:16) Esau just sold his birthrate, and God called him “Profane.” In other words, “Evil” because he dismissed his birthright. If and when Israel rebuilds the temple, and they’re looking for the red heifer, and they find it, and they get all the utensils built, they find a high priest to conduct the service, and then they start doing sacrifices. If they were to do that, the first neck that was sliced open, the minute they did that, they would be stepping and trampling on The Blood of Jesus. I don’t know any other way to put it than to say, I’m disappointed with the lack of Biblical scholarship from The Church of Jesus, because I have heard Bible prophecy teachers through the years get excited with the prospect of Israel rebuilding the temple, and saying they’re gonna start sacrificing. In fact, I heard one Bible teacher say, “We’re keeping watch, the Temple Institute is going to rebuild the temple, and once we find out they’re gonna do it, we’re gonna sign up to fill up a whole plane. We’re gonna sell tickets, we’re going to do an Israel tour, and we’re gonna be sitting there on bleachers, because it’s gonna be an exciting time to watch the fulfillment of prophecy.” Please hear me, as a Christian to consider that Israel would bypass what Jesus did on the cross, and then start doing their sacrifices, and to want to be there to witness it, and take pictures, would show that whoever was participating in being a voyeuristic person to see the trampling of The Blood of Jesus. That shows that there’s a minimizing of your salvation. It shows that for a person to believe this way, it shows they minimize, and they do not appreciate what Jesus did on the cross. Let me present this. The second the first sheep was sacrificed, God would be up in heaven watching the world trample on The Blood of Jesus, because they would be committing an abomination in the eyes of God. Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, John Hagee, all the fundamental Christians, and folks, if you’re listening to this, and you’re saying, “I didn’t know”, then okay, claim the ignorant card. We’ll allow that, but now that I’m sharing this, please reanalyze this. Now watch this folks. Those teacher have stated in their prophecy books that the tribulation period’s gonna last seven years, and the first event will be the rapture, and then very quickly the temple will be rebuilt, and they’ll start sacrificing sheep and other animals. For 3.5 years, that’s 1277 days based on the Gregorian Calendar. Almost 1300 sacrifices if they do it every day. For 3.5 years, they will sacrifice lambs and sheep in the rebuilt temple, but in the middle of the 3.5 years, the antichrist, villain is gonna walk into their temple, and stop their sacrifices, and he’s gonna say, “Hey everybody, I’m god.” And by him doing that, that’s gonna be the abomination of desolation. Let’s compare the two. There is no comparison, because any knucklehead can claim to be god. But to consider that the highest, utmost, abominable act that a villain could do? And to then include that in the same narrative of, “Oh by the way, they have been committing abominations for 1,277 days - 3.5 years, but then this guy walks in, and says that.” So what does that show there? That shows the Christian Church does not understand how horrible each daily sacrifice would be in the eyes of God, because it’s stepping on Jesus, on the blood, trampling Him. There may be people listening right now saying, “I have never, ever heard this before. Never considered it.” And I don’t mean to be so adamant, and I hope that I’m presenting this in a gentle manner, I hope that I am, but as far as what I have been able to see so far, I don’t see how this is negotiable. I don’t see how we can could compare a world leader claiming to be god as being the most horrible thing in the world, which is a bad thing by the way, but 3.5 years of the abomination happening, and that’s not bad? So, this is where the twist is gonna happen though, unfortunately. Satan knows. (Interrupts himself) Now, I started this program by saying the wise will understand, but the wicked will not. And I stated that if it’s a popular interpretation, then by default, it can’t be right, because only the wise will get it. I do think however, that since this is the most popular interpretation, there will be Christians who are excited to hear about the red heifer being sacrificed. There will, because they don’t know. And because Satan knows that will be trampling on The Blood of Jesus, he wants this to happen. And when it does, he’s gonna try to do everything he can to sidestep the power of what it’s gonna do as far as the damage it’s gonna impose on Christians, who do not see it correctly. So when we look back now at the villain, the antichrist, I fully believe that the villain will understand everything I just said, and he’s going to use it to deceive Christians into thinking this is a good thing. Meaning that he will use deception to try to make it appear that he is bridging the gap between The Church and Christians and him, his leadership. So when Christians see that maybe perhaps he’s behind the sacrifice in the rebuilt temple, they might consider, “He’s not that bad of a guy, look, he even gave funds to the Temple Institute so they could finish their building.” In Daniel 11 Verse 30 starts out with one topic, and then it switches to something else, but it says … For ships from Cyprus shall come against him; therefore he shall be grieved, and return in rage against the holy covenant, and do damage. Daniel 11:30 (NKJV) (He implies Cyprus means from “Western Lands” or the nations above the Mediterranean, possibly NATO or the European Union) Now, the Holy Covenant. I just read you in Hebrews, and it talked about The Covenant of Jesus, what He did. He spilled His blood for The Covenant. He (the antichrist) will return and rage against The Holy Covenant, meaning Christianity - our Salvation, and do damage. “So he shall return and show regard for those … ”. Now, here’s his cunning right here. This is what this means. “He will show regard for those who forsake The Holy Covenant.” Who are they? Those are the Christians who do not understand The Blood Sacrifice of Jesus. He will show regard for those people who don’t get it for The Holy Covenant - to forsake it. How will He do that? And forces shall be mustered by him, and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation. Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery. Daniel 11:31-32 (NKJV) There it is right there. Christians who do not understand The Covenant of The Blood of Jesus - to minimize it, and to think that a sacrifice is somehow something to buy tickets to go watch is doing wickedly against The Covenant of Jesus. “He shall corrupt with flattery.” That means that he’s gonna try to bridge the gap through deception and cunning with Christians, and because right now The Church is watching. The evangelical Church is watching how he’s not treating Israel very well right now, and he’s favoring Iran. But here’s one thing to look for, and whether Obama is a villain or not, or if it’s somebody else, here’s one thing to look for. Be watching for some world leader to make a concession of some point for Israel to rebuild the temple, whether it’s through money, or a trade for maybe a policy or something. Be watching for that, because he’s gonna do it to flatter the Christians. It’s a deception when he does it. And we read that right here, “Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery.” Daniel 11:32 (NKJV) So a rebuilt temple is not, not a good thing, because it’s gonna be used as an abomination. Now I know I presented this in possibly a way that some people have not heard. Possibly? But to treat The Blood of Jesus, and to treat it lightly is not an easy thing. It’s not. So Christians, here’s another thing to look for. According to Jesus, He said, “When you see the abomination of desolation, run to the mountains, flea, head for the hills.” Mark says, “When you see the abomination of desolation standing where ‘It’ ought not, run!” Mark 13:14 (NKJV) What does that mean? Is it possible that Jesus was talking about a sheep standing where “It” is not supposed to be in the temple, about to get sacrificed? When you see a lamb about to get sacrificed, standing where “It” shouldn’t be, because The Lamb of God’s in Heaven, you better head for the hills, because when that happens ... This is one of the other deceptions, based on the other way of looking at it. People think that if the temple is rebuilt, we have 3.5 more years. But what if when the temple gets rebuilt, and on day one of the sheep or the red heifer standing where it’s not supposed to be, what if the minute that thing happens, the fury of God is gonna start shaking the earth, because God’s saying, “Really? You think so?” That messes with the calendar, doesn’t it? The timeline! If Christians cannot get ahold of this and understand the significance of looking at it wrong, this can endanger either their relationship with God or their salvation. Or it will also have this affect, or it could. They won’t be ready. They’re gonna be off by 3.5 years. So, I know this is not easy to share. It’s not a light topic. But please consider it. Please pray about it. There’s a lot more information that would take several hours to really get into, but The Holy Covenant is mentioned in Daniel several times about how the antichrist comes against “The Holy Covenant.” That’s talking about The Church, Christians, and he’s gonna have a way of deceiving and acting like he’s our friend, and offering things that, well, if he’s powered by Satan, it’s not gonna be in the best interests of The Church. Let’s talk about Daniel 9:27. Most people can quote it. Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate. Daniel 9:27 (NKJV) As I stated, this whole program is the “What if.” Now, Satan is a counterfeit, and he knows The Bible. There may be some things that he is shielded from understanding, but he knows the letter of it, at least. So he loves to counterfeit, and fake it, and make people think it’s real. So Daniel 9:27 could happen two ways, by God and by Satan. Now the Satanic version is, of course, if the antichrist does this - “I’m god. Hey everybody look at me.” That’s his version, which is the popular one. But let me share another take on Daniel 9:27. Daniel 9:26, let me back up. And after the sixty-two weeks messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself, and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, and till the end of the war desolations are determined. Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. Daniel 9:26-27 (NKJV) Verse 26 was talking about The Messiah. Verse 25 is talking about The Messiah. “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince.” So Messiah, Jesus, is Verse 25. Verse 26, it says, “Messiah will be cut off.” That was on the cross, but not for himself. He died on the cross. Verse 27, “Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” Jesus ministered for 3.5 years, not 7. In the middle of the 7 year ministry of Jesus, His ministry ceased. “So, He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week.” I propose this. This is talking about Jesus. “He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week, He shall bring an end to sacrifice.” How can I say that? If we go to The Book Galatians Chapter 3 Verse 17. Now, (Interrupts himself) Let me say The Word again, “He shall confirm a covenant.” And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ. Galatians 3:17 said Jesus confirmed the covenant. I just read it. Jesus confirmed the covenant. So if the first sentence is talking about Jesus confirming it, “But in the middle of the week, He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV) He died after 3.5 years of ministry, so there was no longer a need for sacrifice. “And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV) I read in Isaiah 66 where God says if you sacrifice a bull or a sheep, it’s like breaking a dog’s neck. “They’re abominations to me.” Sacrifices are an abomination. When Jesus died on the cross, He turned the red heifer sacrifice and the sheep sacrifice into an abomination. Jesus did it, because now He was the sacrifice, and because He did that “On the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate.” One! Who’s The One? It’s Jesus! From that point on, He made the old temple sacrifice desolate, it was no longer needed. And by the way, on the wings of abomination, Jesus spread His hands outward like wings. “Even until the consummation, which is determined.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV) So the sacrifice will be an abomination until the consummation. What does that mean? This one’s easy. When a husband-and wife are married, and they go on their honeymoon, they consummate their marriage. The wedding, The Marriage Supper of the Lamb. The bride and the groom, The Church is the bride of Jesus. When He raptures us and resurrects us, we will have the wedding feast, because we will be consummated with Jesus. It says that right here, “Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV) These words are cryptic. What does that mean? Verse 25 and 26 is Messiah, then Verse 27, the most precious thing. The most incredible event in the history of the universe, when Jesus sacrificed His blood, and the Earth shook, and the sky grew dark for three hours. It was the tale of tales. He died and He stopped the sacrifice. In Daniel 9:25 and 26 it’s talking about Jesus, but then when it describes Him dying in the sacrifice, all of a sudden, that’s the antichrist claiming to be God? Now I know I’m throwing some things out there, but that’s why I’m proposing there are more than one way to examine these things. There’s more with end times Bible prophecy. And The Bible tells us that only the wise will understand. So I know what I’m presenting here is not easy for some people. I’m sure I’m gonna get some mail, and I’m gonna get schooled and corrected, but what if this is true, and what if the abomination of desolation is the return of the sacrifice, and for a Christian to think it’s something be a tourist with? That’s dangerous. So please take the time to consider it, because if we do hear that Obama is making concessions with the Temple Institute, by the way, I believe a story was released on the 12th of this month (July 2015) that they were going to use DNA to come up with a red heifer. And clone one? Is Obama the villain? I guess we’ll find out, won’t we? Thus far, it’s very odd. It’s weird. It’s strange. If he is, how many Christians don’t see it, or refuse to acknowledge it. A lot, because I have a problem with it actually. I do. I’ll admit it. I mean a Jeb/Hillary running. Could that still take place and Obama still be the guy? I don’t know, and I don’t have a crystal ball for all those events. I don’t. But I’m presenting a different way of looking at it. Please hear my heart, “What if?” How is this going to affect us right now, where we are, depending on where we are in the end-time calendar, whether it’s one or two years or several? One thing is certain. In Daniel Chapter 12, the very last chapter, when Daniel was asking the angel to explain it, and the angel said, “No. Seal up the words Daniel.” The angel said something very interesting that affects us if this is our timeline, which I believe it is. In Daniel 12 Verse 7, “Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time”, that’s The Great Tribulation, 3.5 years. “And when the power of the holy people”, that’s The Church, “… has been completely broken, or shattered, or dispersed, all these things shall be finished.” So right there is the purpose, for God is going to use that period of time to do something to The Church, when the power of the people has been completely dispersed, shattered, and broken. Meaning there’s going to be a shaking. We can read everything that can be shaken will be shaken. Why? He goes on. Starting with Verse 9 of Chapter 12, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end”, then in Verse 10, “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.” But I don’t wanna bypass the beginnings of Verse 10, “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined.” That goes along with what I read in the previous verse, when The Church, the holy people have been completely shattered, then the things will be finished. That means God is going to use the dark times that we’re in to refine us. That means it’s gonna get scary. Things are gonna shake. It’s gonna get disturbing. It will be a time of sorrow, there will be grief. There will be times when we’re not sure. There will be times when we feel all alone, abandoned, when the winds are contrary to what we’re doing, when we feel like no one else understands. Where’s God? All of that. But the purpose of the period of time that we have been appointed to walk through. By the way, it’s destined for us. We can’t get out of it. God knew you’d be born today, and He knew that He’d be with you to make it. So, no matter how dark it gets, and scary it gets, our faith must be determined and set, and our faces must be set like flint, looking forward, and we have to have a white-knuckle grip on our face and on the horns of the altar, and on our Bible with determination that we will not give up. You will not walk away from God. You will not allow your faith to shake you, to make you doubt, and walk away from God. You’re going to make it, because even though it’s hard, on the other side is refinement. And God knows this, and He can help us. He can have the strength, give us the strength and the peace so that we can endure. He will be there for us.

Interview

      When the tribulation period happens, Jesus tells us that something is gonna happen during the tribulation period, and when that event happens, you better realize at that point that the world’s in trouble. That God’s fury is about to be poured out on the entire planet. That event is found in Matthew 24 Verse 15.

      Therefore when you see the ’abomination of desolation’, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (whoever reads, let him understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! Matthew 25:15-18 (NKJV)

      The abomination of desolation is what Jesus is talking about, and it is a mystery, because Jesus admitted it. He said, “Let the reader understand.” At this point in eschatology and in the fundamental explanation of this event, most of The Western Church has been taught that this event has to do with when the antichrist walks into the rebuilt temple, and stops the sacrifice, and tells everybody that he’s god, and at that point, he will be committing the abomination of desolation.
      If this is your fundamental interpretation for this, please listen to what I’m going to present right here. We can also find the same account, the parallel account in Mark 13 Verse 14, so let me read from there. Based on what I just said, the abomination is when “He” goes into the temple, a human being, a human.

      So when you see the ’abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mark 13:14 (NKJV)

      Did you hear the difference between the two verses? The one I just read versus in Matthew 24. Here it says standing where, “It”. So if it was a “He”, meaning the antichrist, why does it say “It”? I propose this. So far, based on what I have uncovered, I find that there will be a sacrifice going on. There will be a rebuilt temple occurring in the end times. But the way it has been interpreted for that narrative has been twisted to the point where, if we do not really get ahold of what it means, it’s sad, because it shows that Christians haven’t been taught the legitimacy and the power of what Jesus did on the cross. Because that’s what this has to do with.
      When God established the sacrifice for the children of Israel and the law of Moses, that sacrifice could not take away sin. The Book of Hebrews tells us. It was just a shadow of what Jesus was going to do for us. After Jesus came, and He died, and He sacrificed himself, the sacrifice stopped. Jerusalem was overturned, and the sacrifice stopped. And from that point on, for several hundred years, the sacrifices have not been going on, because we no longer need it, because Jesus is the sacrifice.
      If we were to sit down with God, and ask Him, “What do You really feel about the sacrifice? A lamb? A sheep? What do You feel about that?” We would probably guess at what He might say, but could we really know what He felt about it? Well, yes we can, because in The Book of Isaiah Chapter 66, He tells us what He feels about it.
      Israel had a hard problem understanding that their hearts were far away from God, and they had a problem with the separation of the ritual versus the relationship with God. Many Israelites never figured it out. They did not have the intimacy with God, it was just a religion. They would bring the sheep into the high priest, and it would get sacrificed for them, and they figured they were okay until the next sacrifice, but their heart wasn’t in it. That was one of the most grievous things that broke God’s heart, because He said, “Your mouth says you praise Me and worship Me, but your heart’s far away.” (Paraphrased from Isaiah 29:13) Your heart is not in it, Israel. My people don’t understand their heart, because their hearts are full of evil and they sacrifice to Baal. They bring Me a sacrifice, but then during the week, the rest of the days, they’re participating in abominable things.
      God explains many times that if your heart’s not there, it really doesn’t matter. Don’t even show up. In Isaiah 66, look what He says,

      Thus says the Load, “Heaven is My throne, and earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest? For all those things My hand has made, and all those things exist,” says the LORD. “But on this one will I look: On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, and who trembles at My word.” Isaiah 66:1-2 (NKJV)

      This is what gets God’s attention. The Israelites who had a contrite heart, that was able to get God’s attention. Even now, in The New Testament, in the age of salvation, a contrite heart is what we all need. But then God goes on to explain in Verse 3,

      “He who kills a bull is as if he slays a man; He who sacrifices a lamb, as if he breaks a dog’s neck; He who offers a grain offering, as if he offers swine’s blood; He who burns incense, as if he blesses an idol. Just as they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations.” Isaiah 66:3 (NKJV)

      “Their souls delight in their abominations.” So what God’s saying right here is that their sacrifices, because their hearts are not aligned with Him, their sacrifices are abominations. That they aren’t sweet incense, they’re abominations.
      So, after Jesus died on the cross, from that point on, a sacrifice became an abomination, from that point on. Think about this. Any, any, any sacrifice that would be conducted by Israel or a high priest today in modern times, if they were to do a sacrifice, it would be an abomination. Let’s look at The Book of Hebrews Chapter 10, and look what God says about those who do not understand the purity of His blood. Verse 26

      For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:26-27 (NKJV)

      What that’s saying right there is a people treat their salvation casually, and they tell themselves, “You know what? I can keep repenting.” It’s a license to sin. God says that eventually the sacrifice won’t be there for you. Verse 28

      Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Hebrews 10:28 (NKJV)

      Verse 29 …

      Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled The Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:29 (NKJV)

      What God’s saying right there is if a Christian today does not see the beauty and the precious value of The Blood of Jesus, they’re gonna be punished. If a Christian does understand The Blood of Jesus is a beautiful thing, because it came from our Lord, they will be punished. In fact, it goes on to say. Verse 30 …

      For we know Him who said, ’Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,’ says the Lord. And again, ’The Lord will judge His people.’ Hebrews 10:30 (NKJV)

      That’s a hint right there, by the way, because the vengeance of God is gonna be poured out during the tribulation period. In Matthew 24, Jesus mentioned the vengeance of God, and He said “When you see the abomination of desolation, you better head for the hills, because the world’s about to get shaken.”
      Now let’s examine what we have so far? We have The Bible telling us that the old sacrifice is an abomination. We also have The Bible telling us that to dismiss The Blood of Jesus will result in judgement and in God’s punishment, and in His vengeance for a Christina to minimize the Blood of Jesus.
      Now, let’s look at Esau in Genesis 25. One day he was hungry, and he showed up, and saw his brother cooking some stew, and he said, “Hey, why don’t you give me some of that”, and his brother said, “No. This is mine.” So Esau said, “Come on. I’m hungry.” So Esau was willing to trade his inheritance for a pot of stew. He was the first born. It was determined, and it was set in stone, the culture was very clear on this. The first born always got the inheritance because that was his birthright. And that was a shadow of the inheritance of our salvation today. Our inheritance is a birthright if we become a child of God. Our inheritance is very valuable, because it was bought by The Blood of Jesus.
      Now Esau traded his birthrate for one meal, and when he did that, because it was a shadow of salvation, how angry did God get? Did God treat it casually? No. It says in Hebrews Chapter 12 starting in Verse 16 (Actually Verse 14) …

      Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled; lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright. For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears. Hebrews 12:14-17 NJKV

      He regretted it later, and he cried and cried, and said, “Let me have my birthright back.” No you gave it up. Once you give up your birthright, you trade your inheritance for a little simple meal, you’re done. You don’t get it anymore. You nullify the gift for you. The inheritance of our salvation is reliant on us being children of God. It’s our inheritance, and it was bought by The Blood of Jesus. If you have been saved, you’re born again, and you say that Jesus Christ washed your sins away, that means you are taking part in the birthright inheritance that you have. It’s a free gift (He stumbles a bit here, but corrects himself when he clarifies, “It’s a gift”). To dismiss the birthright of salvation is having the attitude of Esau, and to treat The Blood of Jesus on the cross as a minor thing shows that there is not a value of your birthright. It says right here, “Let us not be like a fornicator or a profane person.” (Paraphrased from Hebrews 12:16) Esau just sold his birthrate, and God called him “Profane.” In other words, “Evil” because he dismissed his birthright.
      If and when Israel rebuilds the temple, and they’re looking for the red heifer, and they find it, and they get all the utensils built, they find a high priest to conduct the service, and then they start doing sacrifices. If they were to do that, the first neck that was sliced open, the minute they did that, they would be stepping and trampling on The Blood of Jesus.
      I don’t know any other way to put it than to say, I’m disappointed with the lack of Biblical scholarship from The Church of Jesus, because I have heard Bible prophecy teachers through the years get excited with the prospect of Israel rebuilding the temple, and saying they’re gonna start sacrificing. In fact, I heard one Bible teacher say, “We’re keeping watch, the Temple Institute is going to rebuild the temple, and once we find out they’re gonna do it, we’re gonna sign up to fill up a whole plane. We’re gonna sell tickets, we’re going to do an Israel tour, and we’re gonna be sitting there on bleachers, because it’s gonna be an exciting time to watch the fulfillment of prophecy.”
      Please hear me, as a Christian to consider that Israel would bypass what Jesus did on the cross, and then start doing their sacrifices, and to want to be there to witness it, and take pictures, would show that whoever was participating in being a voyeuristic person to see the trampling of The Blood of Jesus. That shows that there’s a minimizing of your salvation. It shows that for a person to believe this way, it shows they minimize, and they do not appreciate what Jesus did on the cross.
      Let me present this. The second the first sheep was sacrificed, God would be up in heaven watching the world trample on The Blood of Jesus, because they would be committing an abomination in the eyes of God.
      Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, John Hagee, all the fundamental Christians, and folks, if you’re listening to this, and you’re saying, “I didn’t know”, then okay, claim the ignorant card. We’ll allow that, but now that I’m sharing this, please reanalyze this. Now watch this folks. Those teacher have stated in their prophecy books that the tribulation period’s gonna last seven years, and the first event will be the rapture, and then very quickly the temple will be rebuilt, and they’ll start sacrificing sheep and other animals. For 3.5 years, that’s 1277 days based on the Gregorian Calendar. Almost 1300 sacrifices if they do it every day. For 3.5 years, they will sacrifice lambs and sheep in the rebuilt temple, but in the middle of the 3.5 years, the antichrist, villain is gonna walk into their temple, and stop their sacrifices, and he’s gonna say, “Hey everybody, I’m god.” And by him doing that, that’s gonna be the abomination of desolation.
      Let’s compare the two. There is no comparison, because any knucklehead can claim to be god. But to consider that the highest, utmost, abominable act that a villain could do? And to then include that in the same narrative of, “Oh by the way, they have been committing abominations for 1,277 days - 3.5 years, but then this guy walks in, and says that.” So what does that show there? That shows the Christian Church does not understand how horrible each daily sacrifice would be in the eyes of God, because it’s stepping on Jesus, on the blood, trampling Him.
      There may be people listening right now saying, “I have never, ever heard this before. Never considered it.” And I don’t mean to be so adamant, and I hope that I’m presenting this in a gentle manner, I hope that I am, but as far as what I have been able to see so far, I don’t see how this is negotiable. I don’t see how we can could compare a world leader claiming to be god as being the most horrible thing in the world, which is a bad thing by the way, but 3.5 years of the abomination happening, and that’s not bad?
      So, this is where the twist is gonna happen though, unfortunately. Satan knows. (Interrupts himself) Now, I started this program by saying the wise will understand, but the wicked will not. And I stated that if it’s a popular interpretation, then by default, it can’t be right, because only the wise will get it. I do think however, that since this is the most popular interpretation, there will be Christians who are excited to hear about the red heifer being sacrificed. There will, because they don’t know. And because Satan knows that will be trampling on The Blood of Jesus, he wants this to happen. And when it does, he’s gonna try to do everything he can to sidestep the power of what it’s gonna do as far as the damage it’s gonna impose on Christians, who do not see it correctly.
      So when we look back now at the villain, the antichrist, I fully believe that the villain will understand everything I just said, and he’s going to use it to deceive Christians into thinking this is a good thing. Meaning that he will use deception to try to make it appear that he is bridging the gap between The Church and Christians and him, his leadership. So when Christians see that maybe perhaps he’s behind the sacrifice in the rebuilt temple, they might consider, “He’s not that bad of a guy, look, he even gave funds to the Temple Institute so they could finish their building.”
      In Daniel 11 Verse 30 starts out with one topic, and then it switches to something else, but it says …

      For ships from Cyprus shall come against him; therefore he shall be grieved, and return in rage against the holy covenant, and do damage. Daniel 11:30 (NKJV)

      (He implies Cyprus means from “Western Lands” or the nations above the Mediterranean, possibly NATO or the European Union)
      Now, the Holy Covenant. I just read you in Hebrews, and it talked about The Covenant of Jesus, what He did. He spilled His blood for The Covenant. He (the antichrist) will return and rage against The Holy Covenant, meaning Christianity - our Salvation, and do damage. “So he shall return and show regard for those … ”. Now, here’s his cunning right here. This is what this means. “He will show regard for those who forsake The Holy Covenant.” Who are they? Those are the Christians who do not understand The Blood Sacrifice of Jesus. He will show regard for those people who don’t get it for The Holy Covenant - to forsake it. How will He do that?

      And forces shall be mustered by him, and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation. Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery. Daniel 11:31-32 (NKJV)

      There it is right there. Christians who do not understand The Covenant of The Blood of Jesus - to minimize it, and to think that a sacrifice is somehow something to buy tickets to go watch is doing wickedly against The Covenant of Jesus.
      “He shall corrupt with flattery.” That means that he’s gonna try to bridge the gap through deception and cunning with Christians, and because right now The Church is watching. The evangelical Church is watching how he’s not treating Israel very well right now, and he’s favoring Iran. But here’s one thing to look for, and whether Obama is a villain or not, or if it’s somebody else, here’s one thing to look for. Be watching for some world leader to make a concession of some point for Israel to rebuild the temple, whether it’s through money, or a trade for maybe a policy or something. Be watching for that, because he’s gonna do it to flatter the Christians. It’s a deception when he does it. And we read that right here, “Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery.” Daniel 11:32 (NKJV) So a rebuilt temple is not, not a good thing, because it’s gonna be used as an abomination.
      Now I know I presented this in possibly a way that some people have not heard. Possibly? But to treat The Blood of Jesus, and to treat it lightly is not an easy thing. It’s not. So Christians, here’s another thing to look for. According to Jesus, He said, “When you see the abomination of desolation, run to the mountains, flea, head for the hills.” Mark says, “When you see the abomination of desolation standing where ‘It’ ought not, run!” Mark 13:14 (NKJV) What does that mean? Is it possible that Jesus was talking about a sheep standing where “It” is not supposed to be in the temple, about to get sacrificed? When you see a lamb about to get sacrificed, standing where “It” shouldn’t be, because The Lamb of God’s in Heaven, you better head for the hills, because when that happens ... This is one of the other deceptions, based on the other way of looking at it. People think that if the temple is rebuilt, we have 3.5 more years. But what if when the temple gets rebuilt, and on day one of the sheep or the red heifer standing where it’s not supposed to be, what if the minute that thing happens, the fury of God is gonna start shaking the earth, because God’s saying, “Really? You think so?”
      That messes with the calendar, doesn’t it? The timeline! If Christians cannot get ahold of this and understand the significance of looking at it wrong, this can endanger either their relationship with God or their salvation. Or it will also have this affect, or it could. They won’t be ready. They’re gonna be off by 3.5 years.
      So, I know this is not easy to share. It’s not a light topic. But please consider it. Please pray about it. There’s a lot more information that would take several hours to really get into, but The Holy Covenant is mentioned in Daniel several times about how the antichrist comes against “The Holy Covenant.” That’s talking about The Church, Christians, and he’s gonna have a way of deceiving and acting like he’s our friend, and offering things that, well, if he’s powered by Satan, it’s not gonna be in the best interests of The Church.
      Let’s talk about Daniel 9:27. Most people can quote it.

      Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate. Daniel 9:27 (NKJV)

      As I stated, this whole program is the “What if.” Now, Satan is a counterfeit, and he knows The Bible. There may be some things that he is shielded from understanding, but he knows the letter of it, at least. So he loves to counterfeit, and fake it, and make people think it’s real. So Daniel 9:27 could happen two ways, by God and by Satan. Now the Satanic version is, of course, if the antichrist does this - “I’m god. Hey everybody look at me.” That’s his version, which is the popular one.
      But let me share another take on Daniel 9:27. Daniel 9:26, let me back up.

      And after the sixty-two weeks messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself, and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, and till the end of the war desolations are determined. Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. Daniel 9:26-27 (NKJV)

      Verse 26 was talking about The Messiah. Verse 25 is talking about The Messiah. “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince.”
      So Messiah, Jesus, is Verse 25. Verse 26, it says, “Messiah will be cut off.” That was on the cross, but not for himself. He died on the cross. Verse 27, “Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” Jesus ministered for 3.5 years, not 7. In the middle of the 7 year ministry of Jesus, His ministry ceased. “So, He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week.” I propose this. This is talking about Jesus. “He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week, He shall bring an end to sacrifice.”
      How can I say that? If we go to The Book Galatians Chapter 3 Verse 17. Now, (Interrupts himself) Let me say The Word again, “He shall confirm a covenant.”

      And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ.

      Galatians 3:17 said Jesus confirmed the covenant. I just read it. Jesus confirmed the covenant. So if the first sentence is talking about Jesus confirming it, “But in the middle of the week, He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV) He died after 3.5 years of ministry, so there was no longer a need for sacrifice. “And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV)
      I read in Isaiah 66 where God says if you sacrifice a bull or a sheep, it’s like breaking a dog’s neck. “They’re abominations to me.” Sacrifices are an abomination. When Jesus died on the cross, He turned the red heifer sacrifice and the sheep sacrifice into an abomination. Jesus did it, because now He was the sacrifice, and because He did that “On the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate.” One! Who’s The One? It’s Jesus! From that point on, He made the old temple sacrifice desolate, it was no longer needed. And by the way, on the wings of abomination, Jesus spread His hands outward like wings.
      “Even until the consummation, which is determined.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV) So the sacrifice will be an abomination until the consummation. What does that mean? This one’s easy. When a husband-and wife are married, and they go on their honeymoon, they consummate their marriage. The wedding, The Marriage Supper of the Lamb. The bride and the groom, The Church is the bride of Jesus. When He raptures us and resurrects us, we will have the wedding feast, because we will be consummated with Jesus. It says that right here, “Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate.” Daniel 9:27 (NKJV)
      These words are cryptic. What does that mean? Verse 25 and 26 is Messiah, then Verse 27, the most precious thing. The most incredible event in the history of the universe, when Jesus sacrificed His blood, and the Earth shook, and the sky grew dark for three hours. It was the tale of tales. He died and He stopped the sacrifice. In Daniel 9:25 and 26 it’s talking about Jesus, but then when it describes Him dying in the sacrifice, all of a sudden, that’s the antichrist claiming to be God?
      Now I know I’m throwing some things out there, but that’s why I’m proposing there are more than one way to examine these things. There’s more with end times Bible prophecy. And The Bible tells us that only the wise will understand. So I know what I’m presenting here is not easy for some people. I’m sure I’m gonna get some mail, and I’m gonna get schooled and corrected, but what if this is true, and what if the abomination of desolation is the return of the sacrifice, and for a Christian to think it’s something be a tourist with? That’s dangerous. So please take the time to consider it, because if we do hear that Obama is making concessions with the Temple Institute, by the way, I believe a story was released on the 12th of this month (July 2015) that they were going to use DNA to come up with a red heifer. And clone one?
      Is Obama the villain? I guess we’ll find out, won’t we? Thus far, it’s very odd. It’s weird. It’s strange. If he is, how many Christians don’t see it, or refuse to acknowledge it. A lot, because I have a problem with it actually. I do. I’ll admit it. I mean a Jeb/Hillary running. Could that still take place and Obama still be the guy? I don’t know, and I don’t have a crystal ball for all those events. I don’t. But I’m presenting a different way of looking at it. Please hear my heart, “What if?”
      How is this going to affect us right now, where we are, depending on where we are in the end-time calendar, whether it’s one or two years or several? One thing is certain. In Daniel Chapter 12, the very last chapter, when Daniel was asking the angel to explain it, and the angel said, “No. Seal up the words Daniel.” The angel said something very interesting that affects us if this is our timeline, which I believe it is. In Daniel 12 Verse 7, “Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time”, that’s The Great Tribulation, 3.5 years. “And when the power of the holy people”, that’s The Church, “… has been completely broken, or shattered, or dispersed, all these things shall be finished.”
      So right there is the purpose, for God is going to use that period of time to do something to The Church, when the power of the people has been completely dispersed, shattered, and broken. Meaning there’s going to be a shaking. We can read everything that can be shaken will be shaken. Why? He goes on. Starting with Verse 9 of Chapter 12, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end”, then in Verse 10, “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.”
      But I don’t wanna bypass the beginnings of Verse 10, “Many shall be purified, made white, and refined.” That goes along with what I read in the previous verse, when The Church, the holy people have been completely shattered, then the things will be finished. That means God is going to use the dark times that we’re in to refine us. That means it’s gonna get scary. Things are gonna shake. It’s gonna get disturbing. It will be a time of sorrow, there will be grief. There will be times when we’re not sure. There will be times when we feel all alone, abandoned, when the winds are contrary to what we’re doing, when we feel like no one else understands. Where’s God? All of that. But the purpose of the period of time that we have been appointed to walk through. By the way, it’s destined for us. We can’t get out of it. God knew you’d be born today, and He knew that He’d be with you to make it. So, no matter how dark it gets, and scary it gets, our faith must be determined and set, and our faces must be set like flint, looking forward, and we have to have a white-knuckle grip on our face and on the horns of the altar, and on our Bible with determination that we will not give up. You will not walk away from God. You will not allow your faith to shake you, to make you doubt, and walk away from God. You’re going to make it, because even though it’s hard, on the other side is refinement. And God knows this, and He can help us. He can have the strength, give us the strength and the peace so that we can endure. He will be there for us.

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